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zaher0001
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posted 02-27-2002 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zaher0001   Click Here to Email zaher0001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi
what do you think about editing tomb4.exe... for this I have C++ 6.0 so look what I did:
1-run C++
2-I opened tomb4.exe as resources
3-so I could edit the icon and print new one also I could edit setup dilaog and the cursor...
4-but when I want to save the exe file this message appeared:


Microsoft developer studio cannot save modified resources back to this executable.the executable
may in use,or this version of windows may not support updating resources in executables

please do you know the solution???

thank you
Zaher Abbas

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esperanto
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posted 02-27-2002 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for esperanto   Click Here to Email esperanto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dont edit the tomb4.exe its prohibited
u will feel the law if u dont stop, im sure eidos won't let u do this

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hteS
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posted 02-27-2002 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hteS   Click Here to Email hteS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's also said in the manual. In the LEGAL DISCLAIMER section.

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Bart!
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posted 02-27-2002 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bart!     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who cares about the stupid law? don't bitch and help the guy.

zaher0001, there is a program called 'resourcehacker' which DOES allow you to edit some stuff in the exe file.

http://www.rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker/

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eTux
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posted 02-27-2002 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eTux   Click Here to Email eTux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bart!:
who cares about the stupid law?

Well, you should care, but, zaher0001, I can't stop you from doing this, and I wont try it anymore, just if there are any problems, remember - You were warned!

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Bart!
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posted 02-27-2002 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bart!     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahah lol

like core is gonna step to his house because he changed some bytes in their executable? think realistic eTux ;=)

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eTux
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posted 02-27-2002 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eTux   Click Here to Email eTux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I said I'm not forbiding zaher0001 to do anything, and I'm not saying that he'll have trouble 100%.
But how would you feel if something you have worked hard on would be just 'edited' cause someone didn't like it?

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Bart!
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posted 02-27-2002 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bart!     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'sh1t happens', don't worry about it.

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Yasin
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posted 02-27-2002 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yasin   Click Here to Email Yasin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know about this, your also not allowed to distrubute the tomb4.exe along with levels. Its forbidden and i am sure about it.

So Bart.. if you could be more gentle and friendly to people to tell them in a friendly way it would be better for all of us. You never know what can happen, so i think the best solution is not to fool with such things, like eTUX said, he can get problems and i am sure he will if he does this and releases it on the net.

Further no comments ---

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Data
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posted 02-27-2002 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a very fine line to what is acceptable and what is not.

The Tombraider Community has in the past produced many third party tools which we are grateful for and to which neither Core Design or Eidos has had a problem with.

I believe the true answer to this is to contact Core Design direct to 'hear it from the horses mouth' to quote a certain idiosyncratic colloquialism, and discuss your intentions.

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Data
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posted 02-27-2002 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Data   Click Here to Email Data     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could also take a look at an alternative freeware 3D engine: http://www.genesis3d.com/

Take a look at a screenshot using the Freeware 3D engine:

Development Status: 6 - Mature

Environment: Win32 (MS Windows)

Intended Audience: Developers

License: Other/Proprietary License

Natural Language: English

Operating System: Windows 95/98/2000

Programming Language: C, C++

Topic: Games/Entertainment, 3D Rendering

Is this really for free?
Yes, the engine and all code is released for free. You can use the engine to make a commercial game without any cost for the engine, as long as you follow the licensing requirements.

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zaher0001
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posted 02-27-2002 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zaher0001   Click Here to Email zaher0001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi
>bart thank you for help I will try resourcehacker now ....we both have the same mind
>eTux of course there is nobody in the world con prevent me from doing what I want...
please think before you say anything...Eidos company in usa and I in Syria
also I dont edit the exe for bad purposes but I do that to feel some free...
I want to ask you question:

why are you here in this forum?
of course you will answer that you are tired of the same wads the same egyption levels...
and you want new unofficial tools to make you feel free to do many thing in your mind


zAHER aBBAS

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baloneyman
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posted 02-27-2002 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for baloneyman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't see why you'd want to waste your
excellent compiler on this.
Why do you need a different icon for
crying out loud? Cursor? Didn't even know
TR had one.
You really can't edit an exes' code with
a C compiler. Like the great BART said,
there are programs out there which will let
you edit some of the resources but you're
not really gaining much in this case.
Only reason I'm writing this is because
you must either be a programmer or want to
be programmer and I'd hate to see you
waste your time on this. Precious few
programmers have taken on to TR (not
enough strokes, I guess :) and could
sure use another TR programmer for tools
or whatever. Heck, you really want to do
something good, try disassembling the exe,
figure it out and write the C++ source
code for it (commented of course).
Eidos went down 44% money wise,
probably 'cause they ignored Lara this
past season. Maybe they'll wake up and
realize us TR fans are crazy and will buy
whatever 'Tomb Raider' they put out. And
while they do have an excellent legal dept.,
unless you plan on selling your stuff or
mess with the TR 'image', I doubt if they'll
give you any heartache.
Go for it....

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