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Topic: Scary Levels
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tomb raider fan
Member Posts: 655
From:England, Sheffield
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-28-2002 08:14 AM
   
Iam in the middle of creating a scary level but the probelm is that "IT ISN'T SCARY!" Give me a few suggestions to make it scary. What kind of place is it set in? Caves, Tomb Etc...? I can't decide, I got a really cool soundtrack as well that would make you poo your pants!IP: Logged |
hteS
Member Posts: 1178
From: yellaV of the sgniK, tpygE
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 05-28-2002 08:28 AM
Make a dark underground maze and put a big scorpion in it. Trigger the scorpion together with some scary music. This will extremely up the scary rating in your level.  IP: Logged |
eTux
Member Posts: 1103
From:Valmiera, Latvia
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-28-2002 08:48 AM
I think that'd be more frustrating than scary, okay, I use this method in my level too, but the maze is just an 'alternate way' of completing a puzzle if you missed an easier way to complete it in my level. But never mind that. About making it scary, remember which parts in TR or any other game seemed scary and why, in that way analysing the situations, you may get to a very original way to make your level scary. About the enviroments, what do you think is better than a castle, or a haunted mansion for a scary envirmoent? There have been, are, and will be more than enough tombs, so think about making it a tomb. If you make a level, Firstly you make it for yourself, and only then for the players, so think what would you like to see in a level, and I think you'll make a really good one then. [This message has been edited by eTux (edited 05-28-2002).] IP: Logged |
tombs_on_the_brain
Member Posts: 251
From:Beneath The Kitchen Sink...
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 05-28-2002 10:15 AM
don't know about anyone else, but i get scared when an enemy comes running aaround a corner with no warning. (ps, don't make me poo my pants, this is the only pair i have)  ------------------
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul. http://www.trle-base-station.tk IP: Logged |
collin
Member Posts: 173
From:The Land Of Beer & Chocolate
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-28-2002 11:33 AM
Well, I think the lighting and the music make a level scary. It's like.... if you watch a horror movie with the sound turned off, it's almost funny or laughable, but if you watch it with sound, then it CAN be scary (although this type of film has to scare me yet  ). And also notice when there is a beast in a movie, they don't show it to you in broad daylight, you always get to see it in the dark! So make your level gloomy. There is another bit (but don't know if you can do this with TRLE): it's far more scarier when you don't get to see the baddy, then when you do. If you don't see the baddy, your mind will take control and will visualise a beast that has all the characteristics that YOU find scary. So it will be worst than a beast shown by the creator. Good luck!  IP: Logged |
eTux
Member Posts: 1103
From:Valmiera, Latvia
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-28-2002 11:45 AM
Why impossible, Collin? There are a lot of different sound effects,like footsteps, wolf howls and stuff like that that you can use as an audiofile and trigger in the level long before you see the beast itself.[This message has been edited by eTux (edited 05-28-2002).] IP: Logged |
Data
Moderator Posts: 1681
From:Omicron Theta science colony
Registered: May 2001
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posted 05-28-2002 01:14 PM
If you wish to see what scary really is, I can promise that you will definitely need an extra pair of underwear when you search the dungeons of Castle Doomsday 2. If you want to create a scary atmosphere, 'the element of surprise' will work every time. IP: Logged |
aktrekker
Member Posts: 1110
From:WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-28-2002 01:42 PM
Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't say anything, but I think it just might be able to make an invisible enemy. I had an idea for something like that, and if the info we have is correct, it would be possible. Now my idea is expanding. The scary idea......an enemy you can't see.....or an enemy you can't identify.....or both......hehe
Maybe it's time to break out the hex editor and try a few things with wad files....
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Data
Moderator Posts: 1681
From:Omicron Theta science colony
Registered: May 2001
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posted 05-28-2002 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by aktrekker:
Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't say anything, but I think it just might be able to make an invisible enemy. I had an idea for something like that, and if the info we have is correct, it would be possible. Now my idea is expanding. The scary idea......an enemy you can't see.....or an enemy you can't identify.....or both......hehe
Maybe it's time to break out the hex editor and try a few things with wad files....
I believe you are too late, I have already such an enemy that will appear or not appear in Doomsday 2. IP: Logged |
LarzBritsh
Member Posts: 497
From:LA, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-28-2002 03:06 PM
You need to retexture the baddies or add some scary music. Make it like the game Blood 2: The Chosen. It was very scary, bathtubs filled with blood, freaky industrial track, Mutants with claws.The TR4 engine doesn't do a good job of making a level scary. It doesn't look much for the imagination. IP: Logged |
collin
Member Posts: 173
From:The Land Of Beer & Chocolate
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-28-2002 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by eTux:
Why impossible, Collin? There are a lot of different sound effects,like footsteps, wolf howls and stuff like that that you can use as an audiofile and trigger in the level long before you see the beast itself.
I stand corrected, eTux. IP: Logged |
tomb raider fan
Member Posts: 655
From:England, Sheffield
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-29-2002 07:53 AM
I have got a silent hill soundtrack in my level ( VERY scary )!. I have started building my level, It starts off in some undergraound caves and is really dark inside there. How do u make invisable scorpions? I saw some in recon labs 3!IP: Logged |
aktrekker
Member Posts: 1110
From:WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-29-2002 09:09 AM
Data, you mean an enemy that is invisible only sometimes? Guess I'm not the only person to figure it out.
But I have another idea.......maybe it's too mean.
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eTux
Member Posts: 1103
From:Valmiera, Latvia
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-29-2002 09:22 AM
Yes it is too mean, when I played Return to Jazimiya an invinsible horseman attacked me, and I didn't knew where to shoot, because I didn't see it 
Semi-transparrent is more advicable, cause it looks more ghostly IMHO[This message has been edited by eTux (edited 05-29-2002).] IP: Logged |
collin
Member Posts: 173
From:The Land Of Beer & Chocolate
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-29-2002 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by tomb raider fan:
How do u make invisable scorpions?
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From the TRLE manual:
To create the ‘magical’ crossbow pick-up, place two opposing crossbows; enter 256 in the object code bit window for the crossbow in the main room. It will be invisible but Lara can position herself to pick it up by looking in the mirror.
I don't know if this works for all objects, but you can try. Also in the OCB window there is a 'invisible' button, but I think the object is only invisible until triggered.Hey, I'm just a rookie, so whatever you do with this advice, is whatever you do with this advice. IP: Logged |
Data
Moderator Posts: 1681
From:Omicron Theta science colony
Registered: May 2001
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posted 05-29-2002 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by aktrekker:
Data, you mean an enemy that is invisible only sometimes
That is correct. IP: Logged |
tomb raider fan
Member Posts: 655
From:England, Sheffield
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-30-2002 10:39 AM
Do you think someone someday will make a really scary level? I mean can't even play on it it's that scary?, Iam trying to make that accomplishment but how do i make it THAT scary? I have succeded in downloading some silent hill and silent hill 2 scary wavs from the net. If u have played silent hill and silent hill 2 you will no what kind of wavs there are. All i want to no is what kind of visual and lighting effects i could make. Enemies?, Scenery?, Etc......IP: Logged |
LarzBritsh
Member Posts: 497
From:LA, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-30-2002 03:06 PM
TR games are not "horror, need new pair of underwear" scary. It's more like "im going to get eaten by a shark, so i better swim like hell" scary. That's not the kind of atmosphere you are trying to create, right?True horror would be like Resident Evil. Where the little noise or thing scares you. And you are scared to death to go into the next room or scared to death just standing there. IP: Logged |
guardianofseth
Member Posts: 110
From:Jakarta,Indonesia
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-30-2002 04:33 PM
I made a level which was INTENDED to be scary, by making the player relying on torches and flares. The rest of the level is dark, so if you run out of flares ...Anyway, go to www.gamingforce.com
They got a lot of mp3s from Silent Hill2 ... in case you need more. IP: Logged |
Raider Of Tombs' Clone
Member Posts: 269
From:The mining ship Red Dwarf
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 05-30-2002 06:37 PM
Re-texture a horseman completely transparently except for the axe (give it a bloody edge and wooden handle) and make the eyes bright red w/white/orange centers. Add a near-pitch black room and you have one helluva scary encounter.IP: Logged |
tomb raider fan
Member Posts: 655
From:England, Sheffield
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-31-2002 10:32 AM
My brother bought silent hill 2 for me today ( YES!, I have been wanting that for ages ).Would that help me get more music? Could i insert the Cd and maybe get some, Or do i need any emulators of anything? IP: Logged |
tomb raider fan
Member Posts: 655
From:England, Sheffield
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-31-2002 10:41 AM
Oh and thanks for the site there are some cool music from silent hill 2. Cheers Mate!IP: Logged |
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