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TRWad
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posted 06-23-2002 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LarzBritsh
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posted 06-23-2002 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LarzBritsh   Click Here to Email LarzBritsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yah!!! I feel like Riverdancing.

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TRWad
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posted 06-23-2002 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will take some weeks to finish it.

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LarzBritsh
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posted 06-23-2002 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LarzBritsh   Click Here to Email LarzBritsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's okay, we are lucky to even have a Anim Editor from talented programmers like you.

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Tomb_Raider_Nut
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posted 06-23-2002 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't wait for the release of this editor! I have so many ideas!

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TREEBLE
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posted 06-23-2002 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TREEBLE   Click Here to Email TREEBLE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How hard will the editing be?
I mean, will we need to know how to use any 3D program? Or all we will need is to click on the mesh and drag it around??

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Chronicles5
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posted 06-23-2002 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chronicles5   Click Here to Email Chronicles5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TREEBLE:
Or all we will need is to click on the mesh and drag it around??

hopefully, im not very good with programs that arent directly straightforward.


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David 070
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posted 06-23-2002 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yesss!!

hope it works!!

cant wait until its done trwad!!

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LeeO
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posted 06-24-2002 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeO   Click Here to Email LeeO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool! I hope it's click and drag... please let it be click and drag! lol

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posted 06-24-2002 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheMask   Click Here to Email TheMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is awesome, TRWad!!!

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TRWad
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posted 06-24-2002 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First in-game results. Lara's pistol animations editor, she now holds them next to her legs.

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Chronicles5
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posted 06-24-2002 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chronicles5   Click Here to Email Chronicles5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is that pistols animation for when lara has her guns out, but isn't shooting them?
btw: nice job TRWad, keep it up!!

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cornchild
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posted 06-24-2002 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cornchild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As someone said before is the editor click and drag and one more question I have is will it be like stop frame animation like cartoons were each frame is a little diffrent.

thanks

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David 070
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posted 06-24-2002 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one question...


when will it be available????????????????????

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Tomb_Raider_Nut
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posted 06-24-2002 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomb_Raider_Nut   Click Here to Email Tomb_Raider_Nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If i remember correctly, at the earliest this weekend.

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Chronicles5
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posted 06-24-2002 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chronicles5   Click Here to Email Chronicles5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tomb_Raider_Nut:
at the earliest this weekend.

AWESOME!!!!!

any chance we can get that confirmed, TRWad?

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LarzBritsh
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posted 06-25-2002 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LarzBritsh   Click Here to Email LarzBritsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cornchild:
As someone said before is the editor click and drag and one more question I have is will it be like stop frame animation like cartoons were each frame is a little diffrent.

thanks


I hope it's like this, if it is, i'll be easy to create new animations. Where is frame is a little different in cartoons, it's like that with animations except the frames are different in X,Y,Z locations (in 3D. And we'll only be able to edit the current ingame animations that Lara has, if we make new ones, that will mean editing the tomb4.exe, which is a no-no.

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TRWad
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posted 06-25-2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chronicles5:
[b] AWESOME!!!!!

any chance we can get that confirmed, TRWad?

[/B]


you can't.
I dunno it myself, but i guess it will take more then a week

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Chronicles5
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posted 06-25-2002 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chronicles5   Click Here to Email Chronicles5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no need to rush, take your time, just know we are all waiting for you to finish

i will entertain myself with learning how to use gmax. good luck.

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David 070
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posted 06-25-2002 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are enemy animations going to be possible?????

i hope..

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LarzBritsh
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posted 06-25-2002 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LarzBritsh   Click Here to Email LarzBritsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by David 070:
are enemy animations going to be possible?????

i hope..


Take a look a the second screenshot.


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David 070
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posted 06-25-2002 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes yes yes!!

lol

cant wait until its done, but take your time trwad.

i have plans for the trex lol!

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Number6
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posted 06-26-2002 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Number6   Click Here to Email Number6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LarzBritsh:
I hope it's like this, if it is, i'll be easy to create new animations. Where is frame is a little different in cartoons, it's like that with animations except the frames are different in X,Y,Z locations (in 3D. And we'll only be able to edit the current ingame animations that Lara has, if we make new ones, that will mean editing the tomb4.exe, which is a no-no.



I think you could make new animations to replace existing ones, like having a skipping young Lara instead of a running one or having a speed bursting Lara running with olympic style instead of hunkered down like now.

Will the source code be available?

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aktrekker
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posted 06-26-2002 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aktrekker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While you can't make new animations that tomb4 will be able to use directly, you can do other things.
You can create new animations that are called by other animations. For instance you could make Lara keep cocking the Uzi after she fires it.
Also, some animations are hard-coded to a certain place, but some are switched to using state changes - special commands in the TR file. For animations that use these to change between themselves, you could do some prety neat stuff.

Basically, while we can't create totally new and original animations, we do have a bit of room to maneuver. But beware - if you get it wrong, you end up with problems like the original wads, where Lara does a jig and doesn't go anywhere.

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LarzBritsh
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posted 06-26-2002 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LarzBritsh   Click Here to Email LarzBritsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Number6:

I think you could make [b]new
animations to replace existing ones, like having a skipping young Lara instead of a running one or having a speed bursting Lara running with olympic style instead of hunkered down like now.

Will the source code be available?[/B]


Yes, this is what i ment, you can make or edit animations to replace the current in-game animations. But by "new animations" i ment a completely new animation that require a new key command like pressing "k" or "o", keys that don't have any functions in-game.

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TRWad
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posted 06-26-2002 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't assign new keys, but about the state changes aktrekker said, most enemies, but also lara use them. So I guess there is a lot possible.
And the animcommands can make meshswaps for changing for example the outfit of an enemie.

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TRWad
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posted 06-27-2002 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still dunno when it will be done, but I hope to finish the beta in 1 or 2 weeks.

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tertio
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posted 06-28-2002 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tertio   Click Here to Email tertio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Micheal(TRWad) The one with pistols next to her legs I told you about that one in msn, did you think it was an good idea? I wanna know will it be able to make lara do a back roll if you do this... when you crouch and press backwards she doesn't go crawl back she roll back by editing the animtion? will it also be able to make lara do somarsualts when she release the rope or make lara hang upside down? I wanna know these stuff becuase I wanna make them for my tomb raider movie game... Can you also make that lara do a backflip when pressing the back key inplace of a small back jump-Again by editing the anim can you also let lara make frontflips in the air when she swings forward on the rope and release? also can you make that you rope must be placed near a wall so she can kick her way for going forward and what about editing an Ahmet so it wont die so easy that it stay for a long time alive? Is all this possible

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posted 06-28-2002 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeO   Click Here to Email LeeO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ONE QUESTION: IS IT CLICK AND DRAG?????

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TRWad
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posted 06-28-2002 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeO:
ONE QUESTION: IS IT CLICK AND DRAG?????

Maybe.

Currently there is nothing to click since the clicking function isn't finished yet, but dragging is already working.

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posted 06-29-2002 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRWad   Click Here to Email TRWad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New replies & new screens here: http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=381

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