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David 070
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posted 01-18-2002 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im making a mirror room , like in coastal, i made two simple rooms, connected them and did everything it says in the manual rooms are east and west, i got my hexidicimal #, put it into the script with my room # but now coastal crashes when i try to play it, what am i doing wrong!???? someone please help!!

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posted 01-18-2002 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beetleboy   Click Here to Email beetleboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your wad custom, or maybe you forgot to put Lara in the level?

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David 070
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posted 01-18-2002 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no its the original coastal, and Lara IS in it!

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eTux
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posted 01-19-2002 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eTux   Click Here to Email eTux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I were able to create a mirror room even with cleopal.wad, and it worked perfectly.
To help you I'd need at least a little more information what you did (tell it in details). Otherwise i'm clueless too

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David 070
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posted 01-19-2002 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, i opened coastal project, made two rooms 3x3 squares, connected them with one door, clicked togal opacity on the door and textured with the mirror texture, then i clicked on the plan view square
got the info for the square:x=84
added 1 to make it 85
multiplied by 1024 which makes it 87040
open windows calculator put # in got hexidiciamal #:15400
saved and outputted
opened script , found coastal, mirror changed
it to 177(my room #) and added 15400 after $
saved and converted level
tried to play and now it crashes when i attempt to play it.... please help!!!

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David 070
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posted 01-19-2002 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yeah, before attempting to play i ran easy life

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posted 01-20-2002 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eTux   Click Here to Email eTux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this happen only if you convert with mirror?
I'm starting to think this isn't the mirrors fault.

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David 070
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posted 01-20-2002 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, it only crashes after i have my own mirror in, i was wondering if you could send me a working project so i can see if im doing anything wrong??????????

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posted 01-20-2002 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aktrekker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the mirror wall in coastal have a texture on it? You shouldn't need one, unless you are doing something unusual.

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posted 01-20-2002 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GokuZ   Click Here to Email GokuZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may need to make changes to the English.bat
007680.html

Here's How

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posted 01-20-2002 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
having a texture on the opening might be causing the problem?????????

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David 070
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posted 01-20-2002 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi gokuz, i saw your reply that you did it in YOUR post (funny how were both struggling with the same thing lol) but i dont really understand how you did it, can you please give me some instructions like ex: #1 do this,
#2 do that etc.. please... thanks!!!!!

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posted 01-20-2002 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GokuZ   Click Here to Email GokuZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure

MESSAGE TO ALL WHO WANT COOL EFFECTS BUT ARE AFRAID TO TRY;

FIRSTLY I AM STOOPID AND I GOT THIS TO WORK , YOUR NOT STOOPIDER THAN ME ......ARE YOU ............... NO YOUR NOT

MIRROR EFFECT by Reece

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Are how they appear in the 2D window

Create your room texture the way you want it, making sure that the mirror is on the east or west wall

I suggest that you use Coastal wad and textures if you are testing for the first time and output it as Coastal.Tom just to avoid any script problems later


Click on Top Menu Room > Mirror This then Flips the room ( To be honest im not sure if this is essential to making a mirror room ive not done enough testing to find out )

Create the second room exactly opposite to the other one and create a portal (must be east west) then select the portal/door and click Toggle Opacity and put The texture (with transparency on) on both sides of the portal

Now put lara in the east room (again im not sure if it has to be this room, just put it in the room that you clicked Room > Mirror)

OK (SORRY its so scetchy Ive only just learned how to do it, I will post a proper tutorial when Im exactly sure of what im doing but hopefully this will help for now)

Click in the upper left (blue) square of the east room/the one lara's in. and look at the room Co-ordinates and get the X co-ordinate and remeber the number of this room

eg, 46 add 1 47 and multiply by 1024 = 48128 on the windows calculator in Accessorys then click on View on the Calculator and click scientific and input 48128 Then click on Hex it will turn that number into BC00 ( letters dont matter Hex is made of letters and numbers, either way it should be a 4 digit number

save room and output wad

Now got to the Script Txt in your script folder and open it up in coastal section there is a line of txt

Mirror= 69,$7400

now replace 69 with the room number you got your X co-ordinate from and replace 7400 with your hex value

Mirror= 0,$BC00

(must have $ sign)

Once this is replaced save the Script !!
(you can copy this mirror command "Mirror=" for other levels you want mirrors in)

K now run The "Script.exe"

Very nearly done You need to run the English.bat too (one with the cog on) but it wont work you need to change it slightly.

You have to right click on the icon goto > edit delete that txt and paste this;

@echo off
script script.txt
del ..\*.dat
copy script.dat ..
copy english.dat ..
del strings.h

Now Run The "Englsh.bat" then run The "Level Converter" and Hopefully you will have a working Reflection of lara

Phew (took me 1/2 hour to write out I hope it helps and I hope more people try this effect in there levels as it looks great!

DONT BE SCARED OF THE "SCRIPT" I WAS, BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND IT AND YOU CAN TOO After all there only letters and numbers

PS There is also a way of creathing a floor mirror (but it wont reflect lara) its done easily by creating an upside down room below your normal room and placing toggle opacity on the floor and a transparent floor

ReeceZ passes out

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GokuZ
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posted 01-20-2002 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GokuZ   Click Here to Email GokuZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally David I think your Problem is Running the English.bat and Script.exe I hope I have helped, although I am still working a few bugs out

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David 070
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posted 01-20-2002 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks gokuz, for all that info!! ill give it a try,

(i thought someone said the script.exe doesnt work... isnt that what easylife is for???) well, thanks anyway!!!

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posted 01-21-2002 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emma P   Click Here to Email Emma P     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want to try something funny, then try putting the mirror in the script one block ahead of where you put it in the level. Then when you run towards the mirror Lara runs out of it and straight through you. I did it by mistake once and it scared me so much that I pulled my guns out and started shooting!
The pic in my sig is of my mirror room that I made!

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posted 01-21-2002 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GokuZ   Click Here to Email GokuZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Ive been playing around with the mirrors, and if you dont put any toggle opacity on the portal you can walk through the refection of lara, Im trying to make a double sided mirror so the reflection works in both rooms, I was also trying to get the refelction to work the opposite way round like in TR 1 with the Lara Clone

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David 070
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posted 01-21-2002 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks gokuz!!! it works great!!!! lol!!

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posted 01-21-2002 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Windy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the instructions for the mirror. It works.

:-))

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posted 01-22-2002 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hteS   Click Here to Email hteS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GokuZ:
Im trying to make a double sided mirror so the reflection works in both rooms, ...

How do you do that?

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GokuZ
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posted 01-22-2002 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GokuZ   Click Here to Email GokuZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool Im really glad that the Tut us understandable

hteS; I added a second Mirror Line in the script for the west room aswell, Ive been playing around with where to get the co-ordinates from, First I used the bottom left corner of the west room as to mirror the co-ordinates, then - 1 instead of + 1 then multiplyed by 1024 , I worked but the reflection only entered 1 square of the east room, Im sure there is a way of getting it to work in both rooms properly.

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David 070
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posted 01-22-2002 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David 070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i tried to make two mirrors also, one on both sides of the room

it doesnt work...unfortunately...

later...

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posted 01-30-2002 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GokuZ   Click Here to Email GokuZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUMP - How to Create Mirrors

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